It was another largely disappointing Double Pet event for me with, as usual, so many failed pets I gave up bothering before the weekend was over. But while I still had hope that I might manage to create some pets with the talents I want, I did some pondering about what I would find desirable.
I’ve gone a bit more for healing pets than damage or critical, but I do have a couple of pets with triple or quadruple damage and/or one or two crit boosts and I do see how much it helps boost damage. Since my highest level wizards just don’t go critical, I find the critical talents aren’t super helpful.
So far I’ve not succeeded at getting one with only damage/critical and I get so bored with the process I’ve just stopped with ones like the one shown in the picture above who have a may cast heal or something instead of an extra damage or critical. Still really helps boost my damage. And I’ve certainly been grateful a few times for the heal I didn’t want 🙂
Ultimately I’ve decided I’d rather emphasize damage for my pets rather than critical. Aside from my personal issues, there’s a very practical reason to aim for damage: the critical boosts just add small increments to the CHANCE you will go critical while the damage boosts, on the other hand, are always operating. If you’ve added, say, 21% total in damage boosts with talents, every hit you make is boosted by that 21%.
I know some people really go for the crit and at higher levels than I’ve reached I gather your base chance must go up and a bunch of gear adds more significantly so it can be worth creating a pet with all the crit talents. But my experience lower down in the levels is that the chance of going critical even if you equip a lot of enhancing gear isn’t high enough to bother.
One weird anomaly to this is that if you equip a really low level wizard with a pet who has some crit chance or a piece of gear with critical, you will go critical sometimes even though you’re nowhere near level 50, which is when critical is supposedly first added to your arsenal. In fact I’ve had some lower level wizards with a small critical boost to a hat or whatever who’ve gone critical as often as my level 90+ wizards who are equipped in much more enhancing gear. So you might find it worthwhile to equip a pet with a bunch of critical talents on your characters in Wizard City or Krokotopia and watch them double the damage once in a while.
Otherwise, I think the sure-fire boost you get with damage talents is a better bet than boosting the “chance” of going critical with critical talents for your pet.
Against my usual stance, I’ve been doing some hatching and training without the benefit of double xp but reached the point yesterday of deciding I’d had enough and any more training would wait until another Double Pet Reward event. And today, June 21, 2018, one has started and will run through Sunday, June 24, 2018. So here I go…
One lower level wizard had an Epic Fire pet fairly far along toward Mega so I started by taking her in to finish. I wound up sort of withwhat I had wanted, a pet with three heals and two resists; as you can see in the above picture it wound up four heals and one resist.
The drawback stems from a big drawback to the Hatchmaking Kiosk. Once you’ve started hatching with a particular pet, the one hour “time outs” and 10 day/one week limit mean you have no guarantee you can get as many hatches as it takes with the pet you chose.
I’ve been very confused by the “my hatches” part of the kiosk because for most of my wizards it never shows up as clickable no matter how many hatches they’ve had. Looking at the one time it did work, it appeared that maybe you could keep hatching with the same pet through it–although it was quite confusing and I changed my mind several times about what it was meant to do…– but if you can’t click on it you can’t do anything.
Without the ability to keep hatching with the same pet, the hatching experience is even worse than usual. In this case I started out hatching with a pet who had three heals I wanted –spritely, unicorn, and energizing battery– plus the two universal resists. That pet disappeared, however, and the only pet of the same type I could find with three heals and two resists had batusi instead of energizing battery. As you can see, I wound up with batusi and fairy friend instead of the other resist.
This one turned out reasonably lucky as that was just one hatch with the second pet. When you have to switch to another pet, the big problem is all those unmanifested talents in the pool that transfer and stick. The pet already had a couple of unwanted, unmanifested talents that kept showing up.
Hatching with yet another pet means you get some more unwanted possible talents, which means usually it will take even more hatching and training than usual to wind up with the pet you want. This was just a lucky break that she sort of got the pet I wanted in spite of the switch to a different hatch partner. I really wish KI would change hatching so the unmanifested talents in each pet’s pool are left out of the equation.
I’ve had several pets now who started off hatching with a pet at the kiosk who had the desired talents and then was unable to get another hatch somewhere along the line. My two big hopes for the kiosk had been that (1) I could do some hatching for a desired pet without having to keep bugging someone else to keep meeting me at the Hatchery and giving up a bunch of their gold and (2) I could offer pets to other people without having to keep having meet-ups and spending MY gold.
The frequent comings and goings of pets from the kiosk means you can’t count on getting multiple hatches with the same pet, if you need a bunch to get the pet you want. And other than a couple of pets I’ve managed to create from the kiosk, none of the pets I’ve worked so hard to create are eligible for the kiosk so I still have to deplete my gold and set up meeting times in order to help others out with most of my best pets.
In the meantime, these next few days are a good chance to do a bunch of pet training in less time than usual. Double XP for the games. Double XP for the snacks. A loved 50 XP Mega Snack with a perfect score on a game can give as much as 112 total points for one game. Worth taking advantage!
After examining the fall 2017 updates and the recent ones from spring 2018, I’ve concluded the next updated and revised version of the book can wait for another update. The latest one has all the info a new or kinda new wizard needs to learn how to win at Wizard101.
Since this guide is for wizards level 50 and below, the only major change that really affects this book is the hatchmaking kiosk and the info on pets in the book still stands whether you hatch at the kiosk or in the hatchery.
Other updates mainly affect higher level wizards — like the new world you can’t even see unless you’re something like level 120. The next book revision will probably arrive in summer of 2019 In the meantime, check out my guide and learn all about questing, gardening, crafting, pets and more. And it’s only $2.99!
June 1, 2018 KI announced a Daily Assignment Rewards Bonus started today and will run through June 17. They’re also offering Pet-a-Palooza, wherein you can buy pets and some pet-related items in the Crown Shop for a sale price.
The previous Daily Assignment events offered double rewards but I noted they’re carefully not saying double. I haven’t done any of the assignments yet so I’m not sure what the “bonus” will turn out to be. Since I haven’t found the Daily Assignments to be worth the time they take and have been less-than-impressed by doing it even for double rewards, I’m skeptical about how likely it is we’ll receive anything that justifies wandering to far flung corners of the spiral to fight battles that take as long as finishing quests with far greater rewards.
The pets can be up to 50% off, which means many will be less off. Personally I’d say go to the hatching kiosk and find a pet with the talents you want with which to hatch. Many — if not most — in there require gold only and the ones that require paying something in crowns offer way lower crowns prices than the pets in the shop.
Or better yet find a friend (there are also Facebook groups you can join where you can ask to hatch for specified talents and many people who generously offer pets who have just what you want. You can also specify the type of pet and the talents so you can get one for whom somebody else has already hatched to the perfect talent set. No crowns at all.
But if you’ve had your eye on a favorite Crown pet and you can’t find someone with whom to hatch, now is a good moment to save.
After my surprise success with hatching and getting the desired pet and talents on the first try, I used the hatchmaking kiosk for quite a few more tries. Some of my wizards already had hatches from the kiosk who needed another hatch, having already failed. For a few others I chose a type of pet I wanted and set up their first hatch.
A few are now several hatches in and have yet to even get the pet, and forget about the talents… A couple have the new type of pet and four of the five talents plus one I’m willing to accept rather than keep going. A few more have gotten the pet and 2-3 of the aimed-for talents 3-6 attempts in, but are still hatching to try to get the desired pet. So basically, overall the experience adds up to the usual feeling of frustration.
At this point I’m asking why KI doesn’t at least narrow the potential talent pool to the manifested talents of the two pets. If you cut those other 10 potential talents (5 unmanifested potential talents from each pet) out of the mix it could still take a few generations of hatching but I’d think it would narrow the array enough to make it less likely you could get to 20 hatches before achieving the desired pet. Way less frustrating.
Meanwhile, I’ve been noting some of the questions lots of people are asking about the kiosk and figuring out some things about how it works:
They haven’t made it too easy to search. One way is to click the “pedigree” tab so you can see all the manifested talents of the pets, but it’s not organized any further than that so you just get the entire collection of pets in the kiosk in random order and all you can do is wade through it. There are arrows at the top to move in either direction through the pets.
Another method lets you pick a school and then you get a list of the types of pets on offer from that school. If you choose one (say Astral Judge) and double click on it, it opens a page where you see one of those pets with its pedigree and then using the arrows at the top you can move in either direction through the pets of that type on offer, checking out the manifested talents on all of them.
Because people do a lot of mixing it up in hatching and training, there are pets from schools other than yours with talents that have been hatched in for your school. Even though, say, a Balance pet may have 3 or 4 Life talents (Life Shot and Life Assailant, etc.), the pet will be listed under Balance. I’ve found it easier to just look at pets with the same school as my wizard to find appropriate talents. If you’re looking for something generic like heals, though, you can find healing pets in any school, just takes more wading through lots of stuff you don’t want to find them.
One thing I’ve noticed is that people tend to pick a particular type of talents for each type of pet (likely based on some of the original talents on a first gen pet but I haven’t researched that). Some types have a pretty big array of talent sets on offer but often for one type most of the pets will be, say, damage and critical pets and for another most of the pets will have healing and/or resistance talents, etc. So if you’re after a particular set of talents, sometimes it helps to figure out which types tend to be trained for the talents you want.
In the “manage pets” tab you get to a list of the pets you have on offer in the kiosk and on the left next to each one is the number of hatches that have been made with your pet. Down below there is a “my hatches” tab. I’ve found it mysterious. Only one of the 8 or so of my wizards who have been participating at the kiosk can even click on that tab. The one who does gets a page that shows the pet with which she hatched on one side and for reasons I can’t fathom, you can also scroll through most if not all of your other pets. On the other side you can scroll the pets you’ve gotten from hatches.
It has a “hatch” button so you can go ahead and hatch another round from there. But all the other wizards I have who have used the kiosk can’t even click on “my hatches” so nothing is available to make it easier to hatch again.
This means I have to make careful note of the type of pet and the name of the one with which I hatched and, if the first (or 8th 🙂 ) hatch fails and I need to hatch again I have to go search for the other pet every time. I”m not sure if there’s a glitch that’s keeping the hatches from showing up there for so many of my wizards or if there’s yet another rule I have yet to suss out…
A pet with which you have hatched disappears from the kiosk for an hour after a hatch has been made, so you can’t find it again till 60 minutes after you hatch (i.e. way more time than it takes to train to adult or ancient and find out you need to hatch again). Also the pet is only left in for 7 days or until 10 hatches have been made with it. When you choose a pet with which to hatch, nothing I can find tells you how long it has been in there nor how many hatches have been made so it’s possible to come back for your second (or 5th…) hatch and find the pet gone.
That happened to one of my wizards this weekend — even taking the hour and then many more (since someone else could have hatched and taken it out for another hour), the pet never showed up again. Now, the “owner” can put the pet in again after the 10 hatches/7 days removal, so you might find it again later; presumably if somebody is getting lots of peppers for hatches they will keep putting it in again. But it would be really helpful if each pet showed how many days and how many hatches it has had so you’d have an idea if you can count on being able to hatch again.
Because I can’t find the one with which I hatched, I have to find another same-type pet with the same stats and keep hatching…. except a different pet means more pesky potential talents are probably in the mix, thus likely leading to even more generations of hatching to get the pet. I still wish somebody would explain to me why KI feels it’s a good idea to make it this hard to get a pet you want….
Overall I’d say I’m somewhat more impressed with the kiosk than I was initially. If your main object is to find pets with particular talents with which to hatch, the kiosk provides a very easy way to do that. The ease of doing it without asking somebody to take time and gold to help me — possibly multiple times — is definitely an improvement.
However, since I don’t expect to do much more with pets, my main object regarding pets is to make some good pets available for others without me having to spend my time and gold on hatches I don’t even want. And since most of my good pets are not allowed to be listed in the kiosk, it’s useless for me on that score.
As I’ve mentioned many times, I mostly find the whole pet aspect of Wizard101 extremely frustrating and I pretty much don’t bother to hatch, train, etc. any more other than an occasional flurry during a Double Pets event. So I pretty much let the first day of this event slip by without bothering.
I’ve also been under-impressed with the Hatchmaking Kiosk. But I have realized my initial assessment that you couldn’t get a good pet there is premature. I forgot about the folks who love fiddling with pets and make a point of hatching some of the not-so-good dropped or vendor-bought pets into high level pets. These pets seem to still be eligible for the kiosk, so if you have the patience to make your way through the tedious search for a pet, you can find something.
I’ve been wanting a pet for my level 82 Storm wizard with three may cast heals and two universal resist talents. I’ve searched a few times but lost patience for the process. You can search by “pedigree”, which lets you check out the talents received and stats but there’s no further breakdown, so if you have a particular set of talents you’re after, you just have to scroll your way through the entire supply of pets in the kiosk until you find one that suits.
I was just about to pass out from boredom when I finally ran into a Drowned Grimhorn with exactly the talents I wanted. Even better, the pet card it includes could at least occasionally be useful. So far so good. Then, of course, comes the training — the part that usually leaves me gnashing my teeth, shaking my fists and deciding I’m never going to have anything to do with creating a new pet again…
As soon as the pet hatched I headed for the one game I’m willing to play (Grumpy Gobblers) and started training. First talent, Spell Proof. Okay. Try another. Next up Spritely. Wow, on a roll. Hesitated over whether I should just go ahead and hatch again at adult on the assumption something would fail but decided to keep going until I actually hit a fail.
Generally I refuse to use the energy elixirs but I had a few free ones sitting in my “gift box” so I decided this seemed a good occasion to use a couple and I kept on training. For the first time EVER I got exactly the pet I wanted on the first hatch!!! And she’s cute!
Meanwhile, so far the only pets I’m allowed to offer at the kiosk have never been chosen so not a single wizard has earned a single pepper since the only pets allowed from the dozens and dozens I have are crap. Continues to be a big disappointment because I hoped the kiosk was going to provide a way for me to offer my better pets to others without having to use up all my gold or a lot of my time…
I did offer this pet, so we’ll see if I finally get a pepper or two 🙂
May 17, 2018 KI announced another Double Pet XP event running through Sunday May 20.
If you’ve been trying out the new Hatchmaking Kiosk, here’s your chance to train those pets up faster. You get double XP for the pet games and also for pet snacks (including double points for “likes” and “loves”) or if you get points from feeding your pet gear and housing items
I was pretty excited about hatchmaking when I read about its imminent arrival. The chance to offer pets in a kiosk so you could help other people without having to accumulate a pile of gold or keep making arrangements to be in the hatchery or having to reset the hatch timer over and over… Sounded so great.
Except they restricted “Crown Pets” from being offered and their definition seems to include every hybrid, even if the original talent pool of the Crown pet has completely changed. All the hybrids we’ve worked so hard to create are still considered Crown pets. The definition includes pets you buy in the Crown Shop on the pet tab, pets that come in bundles and pets that come in packs. And apparently if any of those categories of pet is present in the hybrid you’ve created, the pet can’t go in the kiosk.
I tried to offer pets for two of my highest level wizards, both of whom have extensive lists and the kiosk picked up two pets from one of them, three from the other — and all total crap. Not a single pet I own that anyone might want to hatch with is eligible for the kiosk. Total fail as far as I’m concerned. Supposedly a few crown pets are allowed but so far none of my wizards have been allowed to add any Crown pet at all.
Not only am I still left having to offer my pets individually and cough up crazy amounts of gold in order to help other people when I don’t even want the pet from the hatch, etc., but I question how good a pet you can get. They’ve made it very tough to browse the pets, so my patience hasn’t stretched to a lot of looking, but so far I haven’t seen anything there I would want to hatch with though I’ve seen others commenting with excitement about pets they’ve hatched, so there are people who are happy with this new addition.
The new update introducing hatchmaking was due to come on line today and then KI announced there are some bugs so there’s an undetermined length of delay.
I didn’t bother with the test realm so I haven’t personally experienced it but the Duelist blog has published several posts with good explanations. You can start here and then move on to this one to learn more.
The basic idea is people with good pets who are willing to help others can list up to 5 pets at a kiosk and others can look through the available pets and choose one. The nice thing is if your pet is on offer, others can hatch and you don’t have to (a) be there or (b) lose your hatch timer or (c) pay any gold for an egg you don’t even want.
One restriction is that Crown pets can’t be put in and I’m foggy as to whether they mean any pet that started off as a Crown pet, whether individually or from a bundle or pack, regardless of whether it’s several generations down a line of hatching or whether a crown pet that has been hatched multiple times and no longer has the same talent pool could be listed.
Since I just offered up a quint heal pet on a Facebook group and wound up (a) overwhelmed with responses and (b) depleting gold supplies across my accounts and (c) spending way more time hanging around the hatchery waiting for people than I wanted to, I am delighted to have this opportunity to share my few good pets with the least wear and tear on me! But most of my good ones started off somewhere in the Crown pet world even though they now have little in common with the original, so not sure if I can share them or not…
Looking forward to whenever it comes on line!
April 9, 2018
Today only you can get 40% off on Mega Snack Packs in the Crown Shop.
Personally I get my mega snacks from gardening and save my crowns but if you don’t like to garden, this is a good chance to stock up on some mega snacks. If you want to get the most use from them, my advice is to buy them now and wait for a Double Pets event to use them so you get double XP from each snack. For instance, Fancy Yogurt’s 50 XP becomes 100 XP during a double event.